[-PLASMA]

in reply to: STO IDIC UFP, FLEET SUMMIT – Time Scheduling #1855

Thanks Tibs.

It’s me thats rocking the boat, lol – but prompted by stuff people have been saying and thinking.

I’ve heard of that guild technique and I think its definitely something to look at. I think a lot of guilds are doing it that way. This can be easily incorporated into the fleet rules on ranking up etc too. Looking forward to comments on this here and at the summit.

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in reply to: IDIC Fleet members #1773

I’m going to say a few things plainly without worrying about hurting feelings. I genuinely like all of the core group members of our Guilds. I say the core group members because the flighty part-time people I just have not got to know them really well.

Before I get to the issues of today, these are some facts as I remember them.

1. The IDIC UFP fleet was started because a failed fleet (not run by us) broke down and the two leaders decided to kick everyone from the fleet without notice. I just happened to be the last person left in the fleet and one of the former leaders doing the kicking asked me if I’d like to retain the fleet as I had expressed interest in starting my own fleet. He then proceeded to leave and I went on to start IDIC.

2. Londi asked to join me in the fleet. Londi had joined the aforementioned failed fleet around the same time I did, so we had bumped into each other a bit in the months leading up to the fleet disbandment.

3. The next most significant addition would be Kara. we recruited quite a few people in the first couple months and Kara proved to be loyal, reliable and an intelligent person. We also recruited several others some of who became officers but have since stepped down.

4. A few of our old fleet members brought toons over to IDIC as well during the first few months, such as James and Tibs who over time became officers.

5. Ingrid also came over in the first few months with CatStar maybe a month after her. These two I had teamed with and knew since the beginning of IDIC, especially Ingrid as I had had several discussions about running fleets with her, she having been a fleet leader as well.

6. Earlier this year I took the step of proposing a new fleet first officer to take over from Londi and elevate Londi to Fleet Admiral equal to me. The thinking behind this was that we needed a command officer that was online regularly at times when the fleet was most active. LawMarshall proved to be the ultimate First Officer, running stable weekly events and when the Starbase came along taking charge in a big way.

Now I come to present day. Im not out to offend anyone. This is how I see things.

I’ll say this first. It is entirely my faultthat these discussions are being made in the open. I chose instead of private messaging people that we should have an open discussion leading up to the summit, including Members, Officers and Leaders.

I’ll say this second. I have personally chosen to and because I have the required skills being a Designer in RL, set up Forums, Websites buy Teamspeak servers etc. Now I don’t think it’s reasonable for me to place real costs on people when I’m the one that has chosen to do these things. I thought these things would enhance our fleet and even the idea of the guildalliance taking these resources to all our games.

We have effectively 3 leaders in STO: Londi, Kara and Myself. As leaders we should have a presence in our fleets. Having said this I have been a strong component of starting Guilds in other games of which Kara and Londi are leaders in, more prominently SW:TOR. Because of this I can see that time may be stretched and maybe it was not such a good idea in being a leader cross-games as this will diminish time in one place or the other.

Regarding STO

At the moment, effectively I am the one who is running competitions, coming up with ideas, making decisions, posting information on events etc. I cannot do this alone anymore. People are asking where are the leaders and rightfully so.

All I can say to them is, ‘they are on different time-zones’ or ‘they have personal things to deal with’, because I just don’t want to say the real answer which is, ‘I don’t really know where they are or when they will be back with the fleet’.

I think some comments that people have made specifically naming Kara and Londi have come about from frustration in the lack of communication, not any personal issue. I think that I’ve had enough conversations with Kara and know a few things about her RL, she knows what I’m like and knows that I have respect for her. Also I wouldn’t have made Londi co-leader if there was no respect there. The issue isn’t lack of respect.

We started the rule earlier in the year that the forums are our main communications. People can come in their own time and comment. It’s so easy to let people know what’s going on. Whether it’s in the public or private officers area if the matter is sensitive. Please start communicating, it doesn’t take long to update your status and let us know what’s going on. moreover we care about what’s happening with you on a personal level, we want to know that you are ok in RL.

I don’t have the time to be sending personal email to everyone. Most of what I have to say or communicate is in here.

In the fleet we also have several Officers that have taken up roles to perform. Many of these positions have been taken for granted. Other than LawMarshall and CatStar, I don’t think there has been a single event put up by anyone else in the last 6 months. Correct me if I’m wrong. This is frustrating as the fleet is almost 1.3 years old and some officers haven’t even held an event. Some officers have been made advisors and were not required to hold events anymore. this unique position was made in respect for your time in the fleet and the skills you possess, that does not mean you cannot fill the void in events from time to time. Then there are those with specific roles like Nei, who has excelled as Starbase Engineer despite being alone most of the time and I cannot fault him in any way.

Members and officers that have been in the fleet for a long while still are unaware of our rules for example. Does this mean we should scrap the rules?? Something to think about for the summit.

Also several members and perhaps officers have toons in other fleets, this has been commented on as well, people (and myself) wondering why fleet members are not showing up as IDIC. We never had issue with this, however we did make the rule that Officers in IDIC CANNOT be officers in any other fleet. The only exception to this is a personal bank fleet of 1 (one). If you have toons in other fleets please disclose what fleets so that we adhere to our rules.

To conclude (for now), this is a game, you want to have fun playing it, its not a workplace. Having said that the reality is that if your a leader/officer you have a responsibility to move the guild forward. I personally would never kick anyone out of the fleet because they weren’t up to all the command stuff, your welcome to be a member at the highest non-officer rank and join in with all the fleet can offer. Think about this from now until the Summit and decide what’s best for the fleet.

Having said all of this now I want people to be honest about how they perceive me (-Plasma) and my role. Be honest and blunt if you need to be. I don’t want to hear that your behind me, I know this already. You can be behind me and still have complaints, please lay them all out. Moreover if I’ve said something here (or anywhere in these forums) that you think is wrong or out of line, let me know straight away, don’t wait – Now is the best time to resolve all this.

[-PLASMA]

in reply to: STO IDIC UFP, FLEET SUMMIT – Time Scheduling #1854

Im off work so can attend this meeting at any time pref before midnight gmt.

As for plas stepping down. This is the fleet i joined with plas at lead and Londi a great fleet with no pressure or hassle.Now it seems somones rocking my boat and i dont like it.All we need to do is recriut max at 400/500 members the fleet will build and run itself anyone dont log on for 2 weeks gets kicked and replced. They can come back but start at lowest rank and have to work back up.If your on holiday or have rl issues mail plas he wont kick you.I know this system works but recriuting will have to be proirity for a while. It will not be easy.

Look forward to summit Tiberius J Kirk……………………….

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in reply to: STO IDIC UFP, FLEET SUMMIT – Time Scheduling #1853

Oh Plas… Sorry but I disagree, you are a good leader. Everyone has said it and want you to be leader, it’s not you that is the issue. It is the whole fleet and game content. It can not be solely one person at fault, this is a fleet with many people. We can work it through all together- I know it !!

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in reply to: STO IDIC UFP, FLEET SUMMIT – Time Scheduling #1852

I’m sorry I don’t have time to fully catch up with comments properly but I will do so later this evening – Only thing I’ll say is that I think my leadership is the problem overall which is why i want to debate and make a decision on this at the summit.

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in reply to: Freek’n Lag!!! #1746

Yeh true Luna. It certainly takes a long time for it to be fixed up…
I guess you’ll be able to share some interesting screen shots as you did in CO 😉

[-PLASMA]

in reply to: STO IDIC UFP, FLEET SUMMIT – Time Scheduling #1851

Hi all,

I can see that the primary concern for many of the members is the fleet and the future of it… We must discuss all the concerns and the points above in order to move forward and for restoration in whatever form, takes place. I am concerned that the fleet is going to be broken and divided and that different opinions are going to ‘over ride’ others. I have had many challenges with the people whom have been non active and the little communication that has gone on.
I understand real life has to come first and that we can not make people do something they do not want… It all has be a fun and enjoyable time.

At the same time there are people who share the same dream of teaming and growing this fleet to the best it can be and we need stability. I think it is important for all officers to make a stand and decision on where they see them self. It is no problem to play other games and come on STO casually, people are welcome to do what they want. I think it is important for us to know who can commit and and for us to work out what is best for our fleet, rather the individual needs of people..Where do we see our selves going? and how we can overcome the issues of rank and recruiting that best suits the principals of IDIC. We have to think about the future now with season 7 coming up etc, the past is a distant memory, it is the future that will make or break us.

We have had wonderful memories and fun in IDIC and I do not want to give this up or think about the worst scenario. Let’s work out these challenges and differences and above all focus on the future of the fleet.

Thanks for taking the time to read this post.

See you at the summit 🙂

[-PLASMA]

in reply to: Freek’n Lag!!! #1745

A bad thought just came to mind as i considered season 7; bugs and glitches, crashes and server crowding! The first week will be crazy.

[-PLASMA]

in reply to: STO IDIC UFP, FLEET SUMMIT – Time Scheduling #1850

The tension is so think you can cut it with a knife. I can’t wait until the summit, there are just too many hard feelings going on right now and this has me worried for everyone. Let us all just calm down, and remember we are here for the game; fun! Iskara brought up a good point a few submissions ago in saying, lets not let this strain our friendships on here.

The world is turning upside down, its usually me who is angry and my brother has something to say that would sooth things over. 🙄

[-PLASMA]

in reply to: IDIC Fleet members #1772

*smiles and quickly flips her eyelashes* 🙂

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in reply to: IDIC Fleet members #1771

Better becareful Meowstar, shes a slick one.

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in reply to: IDIC Fleet members #1770

Smiles … the funny thing is that I’ve heard of SW:TOR within IDIC fleet, as a fleet side project 🙂
And now became a “danger” … really funny …

On the contrary, I find it very fortunate for us, as a group, to have a fail-over project where we can move to …. if STO is falling down ….. and I emphases on “if” ….

As a side note, Champions Online did the same for IDIC for some time, but we managed to overcome it 🙂

As for SW:TOR, your place in the Jedi Council is already reserved 🙂

What I mean is that we shall see a bit more then the particular game we’re playing … what we really have is our friendship that passes way over a particular game. And don’t get angry, you’ll get wrinkles 😉 . We all have placed alot of time, effort and money(which are also time and effort, btw) into Guild Alliance activities, this was actually the base on which the core group was constituted.

I know what you mean regarding those events where you place a lot of time and effort to make it work and then no one shows up … I have had my fair share of those myself …. but I never blamed anyone for that when it happened, except myself, because that means I wasn’t able to find the right subject or right time for the others to attend.

[-PLASMA]

in reply to: STO IDIC UFP, FLEET SUMMIT – Time Scheduling #1849

All right, I think some clarifications are needed ….

First, as I stated before, I think that all our actions should be directed into keeping the group united within the Guild Alliance. And if we’re not open enough with what we mean to say this could easily lead to loosing the cohesion of the group. What we really achieved by IDIC was this cohesion, we shall not forget that no matter how various events frustrates us.

Second, It is true that in the last 2 months I wasn’t much around, but this wasn’t because I was playing something else. I have had some personal issues, of which Plasma knows about (and lately also does Ingrid).

Third, as I also stated before, I have no problem with being removed from any leadership position I have in either of the Guild Alliance particular groups (aka UFP, KDF, and so on), IF this would lead to a better experience for the others in those particular groups game play. Remember that I wasn’t asking for those positions, they were offered … But for STO, I feel that the issue is not there. I saw the way STO evolved in the last year, since F2P, and I don’t think that is a development pattern that suits us much. I’m sad about it, because I had great expectations from it, as Star Trek was, is and will be my favorite SF TV show.

About STO, I’m actually curious what Season 7 will bring, if they will keep the line that started with F2P or if there will be certain changes. If they will keep doing what they started with F2P, then, with all regrets, I’ll just became a casual STO player and I’ll focus on Guild Alliance business on SW:TOR (which hopefully won’t get broken too, with the upcoming move to F2P). This is why I said that the moment for that meeting is well chosen, as until then we shall have all the info needed. Oh, and as a side note, I was really annoyed to see that being a veteran does not count much for STO creators, as now, any player that buys a life subscription have access to everything that a long term player accesses, which is another minus on STO account for me.
As for the game time, just for the record, all my game time is within Guild Alliance associated games/guild/fleets.

However, what annoys me, is that I was hoping that if someone have something to say about me or my actions, that one would address me directly, and it won’t make a public fuss like it happened here. My email is listed in here and I was reached by all those that wanted to reach me. Not to mention that in fact, my position in the UFP fleet is of fleet counselor and not one of direct command (ops or tac). I’m glad to see that there are peoples that wants to give up on command positions for the counselor one 😉 . As for the KDF fleet, in 8 months while I was trying to make it work, except for Nei and Plasma, none from our group was actively interested in it.

As for Londi, I find any reference to his position at least out of the line; we must not forget that he’s one of the oldest in the fleet and that he’s also one of those that helped a lot with bringing all of us together in this group. I find that questioning his right to be on the position he is at least questionable.

Best regards,
Kara

[-PLASMA]

in reply to: Cute And Fuzzy #1129

lol

[-PLASMA]

in reply to: STO IDIC UFP, FLEET SUMMIT – Time Scheduling #1848

I think that we will have to ultimately decide as leaders/officers where we want to place our presence most.

It’s fine to say that we’re burnt out and are playing something else and will be coming back when new content is launched, but realistically we can’t just go and do that – the fleet can’t run by itself.

I would like all of the officers to look at themselves and what they would rather be doing, where you want to place your time. If you have IDIC as your primary focus, then 60% of your game time should be in IDIC. If it’s not then you should be a casual member, welcome to all the fleet has to offer, but not an officer. This should be the rule for all our Guild/Fleets.

We are all playing different games, not just the games in the guildalliance. Let’s decide where we want to be and what we want to focus on and not be afraid of losing power or position because in the end the positions are going to be meaningless without a membership.

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