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- in reply to: SW Favorite Fights #1971
OMG!! That is just soo cute! My kitty needs one of those, hehe. I didnt like the fight with Yoda amd Darth Sideous actually, that part of the story was too sad. I wanted to jump in the movie and protect him.
in reply to: CatStars’s Contest Page #1950Oh my gosh!! Thats very clever! 😮
in reply to: Fleet Structure Proposal: CatStar #1878HAHAHAHA! Smart@$$!
in reply to: CatStars’s Contest Page #1949Easy one! took me only 24 seconds xD
in reply to: Fleet Structure Proposal: CatStar #1877sry plasma, I know you said not to post another thread unless we cant help ourselves, but the temptation got to me 😛
in reply to: Discussion 2: Member Inactivity and Consequences #1912I will sum up the current views here to get started. Some comments are taken out of context, however directly relate to this topic. If I have missed a comment or misrepresented anyone please let me know asap so I can rectify it.
1. Taken from Kara’s Structure Proposal http://www.guildalliance.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=378
I don’t consider that there must be demotions for absence, as this is a game and after all, a promotion is, in the end, a sign of trust. As we won’t impose limits for how many will stay on each rank, we can always promote those interested in getting involved in fleet activities to teh appropriate rank to allow them to actualy get involved.
Additionally in a pre-summit thread Kara commented http://www.guildalliance.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=381#p1247
1. You keep a person in their gained rank out of respect, as they gained that rank as an acknoledgement of their deeds made to the fleet and as a recognition of the level of trust by the others. It does not feel good when you put ALOT of resources in a group (fleet/guild or whatever) and then to find yourself out just because you had RL issues and for a time you were not been able to be around. Also this kind of behaviour will definately not encourage others to put resources into the fleet, if they risk to be cut off from the mere resources they were contributing to. And I am speaking of any kind of resources, either that means time, effort or money. We shoudl always think in perspective and on long term. A solution like yours, Cat, would definately work on short term, but on long term, that means that someone cannot trust the fleet in which they plan to put the resources in, as someday, the same fleet could decide that it doesn’t matter what happened, and that only matters the present. As an extension is the difference between an economy based on property vesus a comunist economy. Also remember another thing: democracy was what killed Socrates. That means that unappropriate used, democracy, as comunism too, can breed monsters.
2. I cannot agree more that the new ones must be in touch with their leaders, and they actually would get in touch with them, as that is why we would have officers which are also leaders of the fleet and with those they should be in touch everyday. RP wise, think how often an ensign from Star Trek Universe gets in touch with the admirals of Starfleet. The idea is to give more importance to the so called “lower officers ranks” and appropriate attributions, so that fleet leaders would not get burned out from “getting in touch” with the new members. That is why we would have so many “admiral-type” positions but also “officer-type” positions, and all those positions should have meaning, not just empty ranks. Also, RP wise, very rare an admiral takes command of an operation, but that is always a posibility (see also ST Universe).
3. Those description you’ve made about specific jobs are most welcomed and not excluded from my proposal. As I said, we can always define specific jobs for all “officer” positions and i gave some examples too.Additionally http://www.guildalliance.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=381#p1249
And then, what is the absence considered an absence? A day? A week? Two weeks? You said something about a month …. why a month? What is a month compared to an year, or 2 years? As I said, try thinking long term. Finding peoples in which you can trust is not an easy task and cannot happen in a month or two. Those who compose the “leadership” of Guild Alliance met and got to known eachothers in years. And IDIC must be set on such premises that would last years. What kind of stability sign would we give if anyone would be removed from its position after a month of absence? What would recognise from the fleet someone returning after, lets say, an year of absence, if none of his old friends wouldn’t be there anymore?
Yes, I agree, your would’ve had right in your call, IF when I had to leave, I would’ve left the fleet unmanaged, with all rights reserved for me only and teh others could not play without me present to do various things that only I, by those rights could’ve done. But is not the case. During my absence, the rights needed for fleet day to day management were given to the right peoples so that day to day activities to not be disturbed.
And those peoples did what they were supposed to do, and the fleet moved thru that time, for which I thank those that made that possible very much. We all should!Taken from Kara’s Summit Comments
as far as i understood we’re talking about teh membership ststus of those inactive and not about ranks/positions in teh fleet … in this context, I agree with Nei’s position (see Neihty’s Summit Comments), in principle and if however we decide to still kick those inactive i would say that each case should be treated differentiatly because it is one thing when we have a member that was once active and then goes off … and a totaly different thing when someone just joined, we saw them 1-2 times, then dissapeared
2. Taken from CatStar’s Proposal http://www.guildalliance.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=382
Inactive members away without notice for a month will be demoted to this rank (Lowest Rank). probation upon their return will be decided by the admirals, to determine reinstatement to officer, Captains and Admirals will lose their rank as they must be replaced and available. they can tryout again should an opening be available.
Additionally in a pre-summit thread CatStar commented http://www.guildalliance.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=381#p1246
Im not sure I understand the need to keep people up in rank if they arent going to be there, the guild cant stand still for something like that, that gives a poor impression to new members, it doesnt inspire excisting ones eather. When people login im sure they wanna have thier fleet leaders and officers available…at some point. This is just a fact. An issue we have come across before, when new members come into a guild they want to meet the leaders, and should. The reason I added that to my idea was, I know having “the boss” title is prestigeous, but its not there to make members feel better about themselves or a royal right, nor should it be treated like a casual effect, they (serve) the fleet, and to take such an important role, you must be willing to accept the responsibilities that come with it. This is not an attack, its just a fact. We count on, and look up to our leaders, because they set the example.
http://www.guildalliance.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=381#p1248
As stated, when someone says they will be away a long time, they will give notice, inturn the officers vote in the replacement so someone is there to fill in that position. when the said player returns, the one who filled the position may step down, and other be reinstated by popular vote
3. Taken from Londi’s Summit Comments
as for that we use do it as a 3 month span. i propose that we shorten the inactivity time down to one month unless we are informed otherwise that they will be gone longer
4. Taken from Neith’s Summit Comments
And do we actualy have to kick them? Not like they are taking space or anything, at least from my experience in other game, we didnt kick those inactive and when if they came back they had a place to be just my opinion.
5. Taken from Tiberius’s Summit Comments
may suggest you loose rank every 2 weeks inactivity as a officer should be on unless on holiday then gone after a month. if we need room when we recruit thius fleet to max force
of course alts must be taken into account you can play one toon and others are safe yes you should be active if you want to be an officer
additionally in a pre-summit thread Tiberius commented http://www.guildalliance.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=380&start=10#p1242
All we need to do is recriut max at 400/500 members the fleet will build and run itself anyone dont log on for 2 weeks gets kicked and replced. They can come back but start at lowest rank and have to work back up.If your on holiday or have rl issues mail plas he wont kick you.I know this system works but recriuting will have to be proirity for a while. It will not be easy.
6. Taken from Xante’s Summit Comments
my thoughts are if kicked that they are not removed from forums definitly cause that is a great way to get back in contact
well 1 if the you do that kara (see Kara’s Summit Comments) then that does not seam fair to others. all cases should be treated the same till they return
7. Taken from Tetsuya’s Summit Comments
in my opinion it would depend on how well the member communicates with the rest of the fleet. life can throw curve balls at us and we could be gone for more than 1 month, but communication with the rest would be key to we would treat that member in terms of kicked or etc.
in reply to: CatStars’s Contest Page #1948“Is it a bird, Is it a plane”… Hmm it’s got me puzzled but curious now!
in reply to: CatStars’s Contest Page #1947I have no idea, LOL
in reply to: Post-Summit General Discussion & Impressions #1934Hi All,
I have been thinking and processing the discussion from the fleet summit and have taken everyones ideas seriously. Firstly I really want to thank all the people who attended the summit, I was so proud to see you all there and honored that you came. It went very well and I thank you for your contributions and thoughts.
I want what is best for our fleet and its people & to ensure the IDIC principals are also taken into consideration . Here are a few of my thoughts so far:
Future goals for IDIC
Future
Fleet size
Short & long term goalsIt is important to think about our future goal as a fleet, questions that I have been asking myself are:
Where do we see our fleet in 5 years?
How big do we want our fleet to be?
What are our long and short term goals?I believe once we establish this, we can move forward and have a clear direction and purpose. It might be an idea for people to post comments regarding the above questions. At the moment I am not sure how to answer this and believe we need to discuss this further.
Recruitment and Time Zones
Recruitment is a very challenging aspect in any fleet. Every fleet wants active members, ones that contribute, ones that team up frequently etc etc… If only this could be true and real. Sadly, realistically it is important to realise that this is not ‘normal’ especially in many MMO based games. We are always going to have times where we might be the only ones on in the roster , we may not always get to team with other members as often as we would like. I think it is important to understand that this is not the case, due to time zones, real life and other games taking priority it means that we can not always be on. All the same, we must not loose hope. Instead find ways where we can accommodate such changes and work together to overcome them the best way we can.
A few thoughts have been mentioned to assist those members who come online often and find themselves the only one in the roster. One idea that may work is having a group of consistent members and officers within their time zone to recruit as many new folks as possible. It could work, but a lot of hard work is needed to ensure it actually happens. However, at the same time issues could arise as it means the other officers or leaders whom play at other time zones do not get to meet these new comers, it would be as though the fleet was divided into two parts based on each of the time zones. I believe a fair decision needs to be made regarding the time zone of IDIC – this needs to be realistic and also noted that we can not possibly accommodate every individual member based on their geographic location. At the moment we have many USA, UK & European members whom play during the Australian time zone (thus this was our original idea as our founder was from Australia). It has worked so far, but I can see other members are feeling isolated from being the only ones online. Let’s continue to post our thoughts and discuss!
I think I will leave it there for now, it is enough for everyone to read. I will share further ideas soon.
Thanks for reading this post 🙂
in reply to: Post-Summit General Discussion & Impressions #1933I had forgotten about the KDF side, hv been caght up on cats personal tiers, but u know, now that i think of it…given how klingons operate with houses and councils, i think that may be a perfect base for iskaras idea. the higher ups dont really mess with the lower warriors, they follow a strict chain of command like the military. (unless ur the Picard :D) big decissions are voted on and overseen by the klingon high command, if i have understood her idea correctly i think it may follow that structure well, especially for RP purposes. Once a klingon becomes boss, his house remains like royalty (king aurthur..with a forehead) and those around him have thier seats permanantly (knights of the round…bloodwine vat??) sry, in a funny mood…
What would u think of ritual combat for obtaining positions? like for deciding whos in charge like they do on the show, who leads teamups, best in a pvp match could be the house of O’dreads tatical officer…”law…*coughs*”
Those in the KDF side should begin thinking of what our plans are going to be there too. I have a cat there ready to fight for the house of O’Dread, “Cat’Plah!”
in reply to: Post-Summit General Discussion & Impressions #1931Hi guys, I’ve had a stressful couple of days so I haven’t got around to posting the discussion topics as yet.
As for the leadership, at the moment there will be no change until all the discussions have happened, I would say this is also true of the KDF fleet.
in reply to: Post-Summit General Discussion & Impressions #1930My agreeing with your idea, everyone may think im just taking your side because im your sister, but no thats not it at all, and yes i wasent sure if I should have said I liked your idea just for that very reason. But then I considered the fact that if its what I want why should I have to say otherwise, im not going to trouble myself with political posturing, I feel the way I feel. I agreed with catstar because he was right, our fleet members myself included need to think of more then just themselves. I remember Scotty on Generations saying to Kirk, “If somethings important, you make the time.” Im willing to contribute more if more people are around. But being someone who played solo for many months, I know how others feel when no ones there, you keep asking yourself, “why should I even bother, theres no one here?” The only reason I stayed is because cat reminded me that Plasma needed our help as the up coming Star Bases where going to be team effort, and yes, Plasma is my friend, and for me to just leave when my friend still needed my support I would feel so bad. He has been so nice to me, everytime I encounter him hes a gentleman. I wouldnt want anyone to do that to me, it would hurt my feelings. I want my friends to know they can rely on me even when it gets tough. This maybe just a game, but its our club to where all of us hangout, and being a gamer im very happy to be apart of this. But im kinda sad now that Plasma is stepping down I dont really know much of anyone else, I trust him. Some i encounter here wont even talk to me. Who ever is put incharge now, I would ask for an effort to get to know and work with me.
in reply to: Post-Summit General Discussion & Impressions #1929Im going to be up front with my feeling on this, I really dont know how to express this for that matter without sounding rebelious, but I fear whats ahead for the fleet. I will comply with our new leaders wishes, and do as im ordered to, but am not sure a casual fleet will give me what im looking for, nor be productive enough to advance us very far. Yes there will be alot of names in the roster for a long time, but I really dont want to get stuck in a silent ghost town again. That was a very depressing time here, I really dont want go through it again. I appreciate the offer to Star Wars that was made, but im very bored with leveling. I will still use champs for when no ones around. I have even erased most of my toons here because I couldnt keep up with them all. My home will be this fleet, and I will do what I can as always to see to the fleets success.
Please feel free to repond for or against this post, as I would really like to hear everyones thoughts on the matter. But if anyone actually does agree with me, dont be afraid to speak your mind, its not about sides, its about letting it be known what you would like to see your fleet become. Our leaders will need such input in order to make thier decisions about our direction…so please, lets get this topic started in discussion. im asking for everyone to get involved in our fleets future.
IDIC Tactical Officer (Caitian Division) :3
in reply to: Post-Summit General Discussion & Impressions #1928Thank you Luna- yes we did miss you at the summit… All the same we should organize another fleet picture for when you are on also. I am also taking screen shots of recent teaming events that I am involved in and will place on the forums. I encourage everyone to take as many as possible especially when we team up with members, as we like to see what people are doing etc and it advertises our fleet and what we about. Look forward to teaming with u all soon especially for fleet marks.
in reply to: Post-Summit General Discussion & Impressions #1927Ooh, im so jealous, I wish I could have been in that picture. 🙁
There arent usually people on when I play, its rare, plus not everyone is willing to talk to me, that makes me sad. I hope I can find and recruit some new people to add to my play time. Durring the week, im generally on from 12pm to 2pm new york time. This varies, but I try to get in at least an hour of gaming per day. I enjoy getting to team up for raids, and could use some help acquiring fleet marks for our Star Base assignments, im trying to unlock Elite personal shields for us before I unlock the next Shipyard Tier, thanks. 😎
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